X ) Y

X ) Y (Near Chartrock in Arkansas)
T M R (Sounds if Tifinag symbols, c3700 years ago)

The letters X ) Y. which are found near the Chartrock in Arkansas are still a puzzle. In the library, my search of more than 200 Minoan-Mycenae Linear B symbols did not find any match.

I checked out Dr. Barry Fell’s, Bronze Age America, 1982. In that book in the table of Tifinag symbols I found the “)” symbol, which appears to mean the sound “M”.
The “)” symbol was used often on the Peterborough, ON rock. The Peterborough markings include a date of about 3700 years ago. Dr. Fell translates “)” on the Peterborough stone to mean the sound “M.”

So, if “)” is a Tifinag symbol, then “X” may be Tifinag also. Tifinag “X” sounds like “T.”

The “Y” symbol is the problem. Dr. Fell does not illustrate the symbol in the table showing Tifinag letters. However on page 242 are two inverted “Y”s, which have the sound “R.”

Ten of the seventeen Tifinag symbols have two or more orientations. Perhaps the “Y” symbol sounded like “R”. Then the three letters, X ) Y, might sound like “TMR” whatever that means. Dr. Fell wrote in the Language of our Bronze Age Ancestors table in Chapter 18 that “TM” referred to “TAMR,” which meant “tame,” but the “word as inscribed is uncertain.”

A search for “TAMR” via Google shows that Tamr Henna is an Egyptian movie, a boat on the Nile and, most important a place on the west shore of the Red Sea. This area is known in ancient history as the port of the Egyptians ocean going ships. We know the word “henna” to mean rusty red.

The mosque in the picture is called El Gouna Tamr Henna. The mosque was probably built long after the place was named Tamr Henna.

Cairo, Egypt is a short distance northwest. Crews from Tamr-Henna might have been on the ocean going ships going north into the Mediterranean. There is substantial evidence that ships from Egypt were involved in the copper trade about 3700 years ago. According to Dr. Fell, the Tifinag language was used in northern Africa well before the Roman invasion. So sailors out of Egypt would have learned Tifinag. Or they may have taught the symology.

Names are persistent in people’s minds and home town names are often duplicated by explorers in a new land. Perhaps explorers did come from Tamr-Henna in Egypt. The area near Batesville would be a very good spot to over winter, while the crews waited for the sailing season to the Copper fields in Lake Superior. Perhaps they wrote the name of TMR in Arkansas. Two years ago, I convinced myself that the chart on the Dhartrock was a Sun Synbol, which was the old Egyptian religion.

Do you have a better explanation for X ) Y ?

PICTURE for DONNA

PICTURE for DONNA

As a result of the last blog entry Donna and I have emailed each other several times.

She and Bill, her husband would really like to go along on the Trip to FAR, But Bill has had an operation on one knee and will be getting a similar operation on the other knee very soon. I emailed to Donna that Larry and I would like to keep the “mob” down to 10 people and two cars.

Donna emailed,

Re: Re: Re: A trip to FAR
Fri, January 8, 2010 1:30:39 PM

For now, I agree we can do a virtual hike. But please include a few close ups of details.
Donna

So this picture and those to follow are for Donna, but she will share them with you.

This picture shows a fallen grave stone in an old, old grave yard. The small square peg at the top may mark another grave made long ago. The white vase at the right is on a recent tomb stone.

The fallen grave stone we see in front of us has a brick on it so we can estimate the relative size. I sketched a white dotted line across the grave stone so you can see that the bottom end had been buried a respectable distance in the ground. The earth may have washed away, but a more natural reason may have been freezing and thawing.

Water that seeped under the grave stone may have frozen and expanded to lift the stone a little year after year. A good theory, except that the temperature does not usually get that cold in Arkansas. But wait. The stone itself could conduct the cold down. Also, if the stone had been there a long, long time there would have been periods of freezing that might have driven the frost layer that deep. The visible evidence implies the grave marker had been there a long, long time.

Why all the speculation? We hope to see in March that Ari’s name on the stone is written with RUNES!

Susan ?

I wrote the following email to Susan

Have you and Jim made any firm committments about going on the March Trip to Five Arkansas Rocks? Note in the FAR blog , Trip Plans, that Lee would like an earlier date. At this time I am suggesting March 25-27, with the following agenda:

Mar. 24 Arrival & visiting
Mar. 25 Chart rock, blown area, & Atl Atl demo.
Mar. 26 Projectile point, Zinc Mine & Graves, Ogam and Melagne
Mar. 27 Rune stone, and De Soto's inscription.

Please let us know as soon as you can. We may be approaching a mob size, but there are a few more to invite if we have room.

BREAST PLATE

Larry wrote to Myron:

The Penningtons might like to know about the possibility of getting an artifact collector to show us the copper or bronze breastplate he dug up just across the stream from Chart Rock. He dug it up 40 years or so ago. I have friends who know him and he might (or might not) go on cameera but maybe he would at least let the artifact be videoed. It would be interesting to find out.

I think a probe he was using either poked a hole in the breastplate or dented it. If it made a hold, that argues for copper, I would think.

Also, I will forward you within a day or two the description of Chart Rock as it was before it was dynamited by treasure hunters. Charles Berry has a better handle now on where that part of the cliff is. The full range of carvings of figures, tracks, designs et. was obviously a major (religious??) site.

Reportedly a couple or three carved figures remain at the very top of the cliff but when you, I and Charles were there we did not know exactly where to look.

It is a short distance downstream from the Stone Throne with the pecked sun disk and rays, and the Inscription

TRIP PLANS

I am going to compress actions here to catch up to today.

Lee and Joy accepted my invitation. Susan was enthused about going but wanted a few days to make sure her schedule would match. She was going to invite Jim, also.

Two days ago Lee wrote

Hi Myron and Larry,

As now planned, Joy and I will be arriving in Batesville, AR on March 25th for the trek to the various sites we've talked about. I'm good for the 26, 27, 28, but I must leave no later than the 29th. I have a program in Utah April 1 & 2. (It's a 23 hour drive from Batesville). We'll be driving to Utah directly from Batesville. If you wanted to back the dates up for Batesville a couple of days, that would be fine with me. I have a program here in Louisville on March 22, but could get to Batesville on the 23th or the 24th if you wanted to back things up some. Let me know.

Also, if you have photos or information on the sites we are to visit, I'd like to get hold of these ahead of time to do some research. Thanks.

Am very much looking forward to this one.

To which I replied yesterday:Lee,

The gathering for Christmas has started. I think we can accomodate an earlier schedule. I am adding two photos. I found them a few days ago. I know where the others are, but will not take time to load then.

Photo #1 (on the right) The chartrock Tree shows a tree deliberately deformed as a signal to guide people to the spot. The tree is probably less than fifty years old, so the people who cut it may have been jst curious people who wanted to return.

Photo #2 (on the left) shows the three characters X-)-Y near the Chartrock. The camera was on or close to Chartrock.

If I remember correctly, X & Y are part of the Tifinag alphabet. But then, I have since discovered that they go back to the Minaon age, 3200 years ago. So they could have been ueed by many people to mean many things.

The AGREEMENT

The three of us: Lee, Susan, and I were clumped together as the whole group walked the narrow tire tracks back to the main road.  We had just looked at, I believe, a 3700 year old engraving of a Minoan ship on rocks near to the center of Lake Superior.

As we walked I told Lee and Susan about the FAR.  I was suprized to hear one of them, I think it was Lee, say something like "I would like to see the FAR.  The other, probably Susan, responded like, "Me Too."  So I agreed to contact Larry.
But I forgot!


Lee reminded me, three months later at the Conference of Ancient America at Marquette, Michigan.  The Conference of Ancient America is where all the knowledgable scholars about subjects inprotant to understand ancient America meet.  There are many topics but the Conference appears to have agreed by majority acceptance that:


1  Many peoples came to ancient America in many boats from many places at many times. and


2. The Copper Trail story where about 110 million pounds of copper were carried away by some of those people, i.e. Minoans, is a story the Conference wants to make known.


So I wrote an email to Larry.  Then I forgot about the Trip to FAR again!
This time Larry reminded me.


" Mon, December 14, 2009 1:18:52 PM"

"Hi, Myron,
 "Any more news on Lee Pennington possibly coming to take the tour you and I went on in 2008?
 
"That would be great! Late March is probably the end range of the window for missing the ticks, snakes, chiggers and wildly growing vegetation for such a trip. ...

"Well, let me know about Pennington and Merry Christmas to you and yours. —Larry"

A TRIP to FAR

Hi, I am Myron.

I and my friends are planing a trip to FAR. FAR is an acronym for "Five Arkansas Rocks." I and Larry, who lives in Arkansas, took this trip about two years ago. I came back enthused. The FAR are evidence that many people came to ancient Arkansas from many places.

Well, one of the rocks has a date of 1541 scratched on it. So I am considering anything backwards in time from 1542 to be ancient. During the trip to FAR, we will also see modern interesting rocks: the zinc mine and the tombstones of the melange people. We will also be looking for very ancient evidence of the Big Event of 13,000 years ago when most of life on North America perished. I thought I saw some of this evidence two years ago.

I am going to keep some of the directions and locations vague. At this time a trip to FAR is an event for only a few very interested people to enjoy. Twice, two years ago, I found myself on my muddy knees struggling to grasp the trunks of small trees as I crawled up hill to reach another of the FAR. A minor mob of mildly curious people doing the same thing would badly damage Arkansas woodlands. So do not try to go to FAR unless Larry guides you--with a very small group of very interested friends.

But I encourage you to follow along on this second trip to FAR.